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Mohammad al-Ghazzālī (1058-1111)

Atheist: Why do you believe that God exits?

Christian: Because there are compelling arguments that He  exists.

Atheist: Let me hear one of them.

Christian: I will offer you the kalam argument.

1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause of its
existence.
2. The universe began to exist.

3. Therefore, the universe has a cause of its
existence.

Atheist: How is that an argument for existence of God?

Christian: Because the cause of the begining of the universe would have to be uncaused, eternal, changeless, timeless, and immaterial.

Atheist: And those are the attributes of God?

Christian: Yes, and I believe one can also add  personal on that list, because it would have to be a personal agent who freely elects to create an effect in time.

Atheist: If whatever exist has a cause of its existence, what caused God’s existence?

Christian: You have misunderstood proposition 1.  Whatever begins to exist has a cause of its
existence.

Atheist: And God being uncaused, eternal, changeless, timeless, and immaterial means He did not begin to exit.

Christian: Yes.

Atheist: That is just a “God of the gaps” reasoning, just because you can not explain the cause of the universe, you take a lazy way out by filling it with God.

Christian:  But what I presented to you is a religiously neutral statements.

Atheist: How so?

Christian: Because these are obviously statements to which scientific evidence is relevant. They may then serve as premisses in a philosophical argument for a conclusion having religious significance. There is no gap here wanting to be filled.

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For a full detail kalam Argument. Dialogue answer to “God of the Gap objection” is inspired by William Lane Craig

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