Love Wins + Bad Argument

“Will all people be saved, or will God not get what he wants?”

Rob Bell, Love Wins,  p.98(2011)

Quiz II: Is this a good argument? If not what is wrong with it?

Premise 1: Ether all people will be saved, or God will not get what he wants.

Premise 2: God will get what he wants.

Conclusion: Therefore all people will be saved.

Source: Rob Bell, Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived HarperOne; First Edition edition (March 15, 2011)

13 thoughts on “Love Wins + Bad Argument

  1. well, the first premise implies that he wants all humans to be saved. does he? if so, why doesnt he just do it and get it over with? if premise 2 is correct, why do we even bother thinking about this subject, since were actually just second guessing the creators intentions, as well as the outcome of those intentions? that is, assuming he is all knowing/all powerful. or, and this is a risky suggestion i realise: god does not resemble the image depicted in the bible. which would be logical, since its the case that mankind has been altering , reinterpreting and editing those scriptures since their inception.

    We will be known for our love for one another. Not our love for doctrine or the right belief but our love for one another. What is the greatest commandment?

    jackson, much respect to you for voicing my thoughts so well. i believe if there is a god, he does not reside in the words of the bible, but in the hearts of those who interpret those words in the spirit of your post, to unite us as humans, not divide us as believers.

    • But how can we know what “love” is if we do not know its correct meaning? We love one another as a result of hold a correct doctrine and right belief(Christ). You can not choice one and leave the other 😀

      • 1 Corinthians 13:4-7

        Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

      • Thanks Jackson,

        Your answer shows that one ought to began with Doctrine of Love to know what love is, then move to practicing it 🙂

        The greatest commandment is to love God with all we are and loving our next as ourselves. This means we are to correctly know who God is, studying God(Theology) and then leads to a correct response (our love for one another, helping each other, caring for each other et cetera)

        Thank again 😀


    • Nobody gets what they want? So God’s will isn’t very strong then and that would mean He’s not Omnipotent since the Scriptures say He wants all men to be saved…

      • Hej Jackson,

        Thank you for the comment. Love-wins argument above is in error. As Brap put it, its a false dichotomy. It leaves other possible options, e,g, not all people will be saved and God gets what he wants.

        Could you please give the passages that say God “want” all me to be saved, so that we could do exegetic work together?

        Please do answer this comment in either article: When Bell Robs Bells of Hell or Hell, Not Fair?

        Grace be upon you.



  2. We will be known for our love for one another. Not our love for doctrine or the right belief but our love for one another. What is the greatest commandment?

    1 John 2:2- He himself is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—and not only our sins but the sins of all the world.

    1 Timothy 4:10- This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers.

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