Companion To Question 1 in 12 Questions I Found Useful Asking Jehovah’s Witnesses

On October 28, 2011, I posted 12 Questions I Found Useful Asking Jehovah’s Witnesses. Since then I received 2 responses from Jehovah’s Witnesses’ reddit members with profile names jw101 and  JWJONAH.

This is a companion to the  first question in my 12 questions I found useful asking JW, responding  jw101 and JWJONAH’s answers to my questions.

I found hope and was encouraged by Apostle Peter’s words when I wrote this companion. He wrote:

“Now who is there to harm you if you are zealous for what is good? But even if you should suffer for righteousness’ sake, you will be blessed. Have no fear of them, nor be troubled, but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. For it is better to suffer for doing good, if that should be God’s will, than for doing evil.”(1 Peter 3:13-17 ESV)

JWJONAH wrote: “This guy [Prayson Daniel]is the new kid on the blogspam block. He came out strong trying to make a name bashing JW’s. I answered his lies on reddit and refused to answer them on his blog as he wanted. He has yet to answer my questions. All he is a spam blogger.”

With gentleness and respect, let us look at the answers given by JWJONAH and jw101:

1. Why did Jehovah’s Witnesses properly worshiped Christ Jesus until 1954?

Jw101: “I would have to see some articles about this to understand what the OP talking about. Most likely it is a misunderstanding of some sort.”

In Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Properly Worshiped Jesus? post, I presented Watchtower’s published literatures that recorded Jehovah’s witnesses’ properly worshiping Christ Jesus.

Ask, in love and gentleness, for JW to present a single Watchtower published literature before 1954 that deny worship to Christ Jesus. All jw101 could produce was that JW worshiped God the Father, true! But they also worshiped the Son of God.

One clear evidence is found in the original Watchtower’s legal Charter that stated the purposes of their Society: “to prepare, support, maintain and send out to various parts of the world Christian missionaries, teachers and instructors in the Bible and Bible literature and for public Christian worship of Almighty God and Christ Jesus” 1945′s Yearbook(emphasis added)

JWJONAH: “This make no sense we decided upon the name Jehovah Witnesses in the 1930’s. Probably what you are referring to as of the last song book revision we had more songs that focused on Jesus and less on the Father that we corrected.”

It is true the name “Jehovah’s Witnesses” was adopted at Columbus, Ohio, in 1931 when Rutherford filled in the J.W. initials, renaming what was already  C. T. Russell’s movement: Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society(from Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society,) of Pennsylvania movement.

“The meaning of `JW’ was revealed on Sunday, July 26, 1931, when thrilled conventioners heartily adopted a resolution presented by J. F. Rutherford and entitled `A New Name.’ It said, in part: … therefore we joyfully embrace and take the name which the mouth of the Lord God has named, and we desire to be known as and called by the name, to wit, Jehovah’s witnesses.'” (WB&TS, 1975, pp.149-150).

“A milestone, though, was reached at a convention held in Columbus, Ohio, in 1931. On Sunday, July 26, at noon, Brother Rutherford delivered the public discourse `The Kingdom, the Hope of the World,’ which was broadcast over a vast radio hookup, with more than 300 additional stations later rebroadcasting the message. At the end of the discourse, Brother Rutherford served notice on Christendom by reading a stinging resolution entitled `Warning From Jehovah,’ which was addressed `To the Rulers and to the People.’ To his invitation that they adopt the resolution, the entire visible audience stood and shouted, `Aye!’ Telegrams later received indicated that many of those listening on the radio likewise raised their voices in agreement. From one o’clock, when the public discourse was finished, until four o’clock, when Brother Rutherford reentered the auditorium, the atmosphere was charged with excitement. Brother Rutherford had specially requested that everyone who was really interested in the noonday warning to Christendom be in his seat at four o’clock. Promptly at four, Brother Rutherford began by stating that he regarded what he was about to say as of vital importance to everyone who could hear his voice. His listeners were keenly interested. During his discourse he presented another resolution, this one entitled `A New Name,’ which was climaxed by the declaration: `We desire to be known as and called by the name, to wit, Jehovah’s witnesses. `The thrilled convent’ again jumped to their feet with the ringing shout `Aye!’ They would henceforth be known as Jehovah’s Witnesses!” (WB&TS, “Jehovah’s Witnesses, Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom,” Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Brooklyn NY, 1993, pp.79,82. Emphasis original)

“In exalting Jehovah’s name, however, the convention of God’s people at Columbus, Ohio, July 24-30, 1931, was a milestone. . It was unique in that extension conventions were scheduled for 165 other places throughout the earth. But that was not the most important factor. There was something much more significant. It was linked with the enigmatic letters `JW’ appearing on the printed assembly program and the title page of The Messenger, the convention newspaper-in fact, seen in many places. `When we got near the assembly grounds,’ remarks Burnice E. Williams, Sr., `we saw “JW” all over the place. But not knowing what it stood for, we were all wondering, “What is this JW for?”‘ Sister Herschel Nelson recalls: `Speculations were made as to what JW stood for-Just Wait, Just Watch, and the correct one …” (WB&TS, “1975 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses,” Watchtower Bible & Tract Society: Brooklyn NY, 1975, p.149).

Even if we grant that new name means new record, we still have two decades of worshiping of Jesus under the new name: Jehovah’s Witnesses.

[Update: Joseph Franklin Rutherford, who renamed the movement, continued in the teaching of proper worshiping of Christ Jesus:

“Jehovah God commands all to worship Christ Jesus because Christ Jesus is the express image of his Father, Jehovah, and because he is the Executive Officer of Jehovah always carrying out Jehovah’s purpose (Heb.:3-6).” Watchtower 1939 Nov. 15 p.339

“During the Millennium, “the princes will lead the people in their worship of Jehovah and of Christ.” Vindication Volume 3 p.295

“The people of all nations who obtain salvation must come to the house of the Lord to worship there; that is to say, they must believe on and worship Jehovah God and the Lord Jesus Christ, his chief instrument (Philippians 2:10, 11).” Salvation p.151]

The question remain unanswered: Why did Jehovah’s Witnesses properly worshiped Christ Jesus until 1954?

Next: Companion To Question 2

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5 thoughts on “Companion To Question 1 in 12 Questions I Found Useful Asking Jehovah’s Witnesses

  1. It is better to talk with JW who is still alive and have seen both time before and after 1954… to check their song book before 1954…

  2. I got to know the JW in the 50ies and as long as I remember in Belgium they never thought to honour or pray to Christ Jesus. Jesus himself also considered Jehovah the most High to whom we had to pray too. Jesus also prayed to his Father. In case the JW said we could pray to Jesus they perhaps saw it in the light that Jesus is the mediator between God and man. But this would not be taken his act of willingness to die at the wooden stake to its fullest meaning, namely by dying for our sins Jesus opened the way to go straight (directly) to his and our Father. There is no reason at all to use other persons or mediums to speak to God … we can talk to Him straight ahead at any moment of the day at any place.

    • Thanks Marcusampe,

      I did not argued that JW taught prayer to Jesus in this article but that they taught & worshiped Jesus Christ until 1st January 1954. Their act entailed that Jesus is God Jehovah, a position they deny.

      In Christ,
      Prayson

  3. Dear Prayson Daniel, in case the JW thought they could worship Jesus and afterwards they came to other ideas it is perhaps because they saw it clearer to what was written in the Holy Scriptures. Though: The Bible is straight forward: we may only honour the One and Only One God Jehovah.
    Jesus is the son of God and not god the son. Jesus also learned the people to pray to his father and not to him.

    • Dear Christadelphians,

      Thank you for your comment. Your correct in say that One and Only God Jehovah is to be honor but sadly wrong that Jesus was not prayed to and I would add worshiped and honor.

      So this is what the first Church Fathers dealt with when they came up with Triune God.

      1. The One and Only One God Jehovah is correctly honored, worshiped and pray too.
      2. The Father is correctly honored, worshiped and prayed to.
      3. The Son is correctly honored, worshiped and prayed to.
      4. Therefore the Father and the Son are the One and Only God Jehovah.

      Note: I could argue on Holy Spirit, but I did not since this article is about worship of Christ Jesus.

      Biblical truthfulness of premise 3:

      John 14:14, “If you ask Me[Jesus] anything in My name, I will do it.”

      “Call upon the name of the Lord.”(e.g. Psalm 116:4 ) was an OT way of praying to God Jehovah. Paul use it name of Jesus in 1 Cor. 1:2, “to the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours.”

      Another classic pray was maranatha which the Church used from times of Paul’s meaning come Lord Jesus.

      Moreover, the first 250-ish years of Christianity, Jesus was worshiped, prayed and no objection for him to be God. If you wish I can write quote the Apostolic Fathers and Apologist from 30-250-ish to show you that its not until Arius came into the picture did the debate of Jesus being God arose.

      See also Hebrew 1, Philippians 2:10.

      BTW: It true that Jesus taught his disciples to pray to God, but he also taught they ought to ask him anything and he will do it and as they honor the Father, they ought to honor Him as well(John 5:23).

      But I would beautiful end up with Thomas confession in John 20:28 as a prayer. I do pray that Christ Jesus would be the God of you and the Lord of you as He is to me and it was to Thomas.

      Maranatha
      Prayson

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