The Nietzschean Sinner

Giovanni Battista Tiepolo MiniThe Sinner, in my re-modification of Nietzschean Parable of the Madman*, ran up to the place called Golgotha, and cried incessantly: “I seek Life! I seek Life!” As many of those who did not believe in the accuracy of a mocking but ironically true description placed above the head of a Nazarene hanged on the Roman cross, ‘This is Jesus the King of the Jews’, laughed at the insanity of the Sinner’s words.

“Where is Life?” the Sinner cried; “I will tell you. We have killed Him – you and I. Death have finally and victoriously won. Hope is lost. It stung and killed Life at the cross. Men forever lost. Wretched men that we are! Who will rescue us from this perishable body of death?”

“O Sinner”, the Eschatological Hope replied,” Do not fall into despair. The death of Life at the cross was the death of Death. It was impossible for Life to be held by Death. The resurrection of Life was the confirmation that you O Sinner and the Church, who are found in Life, would also put on the imperishable body of life. Life has already but not yet rescued His Church. Death was swallowed up in victory by Life.”

“Rejoice and sing praise to Life, O Sinner,” said the Eschatological Hope, ” You and the true Church of God ought to rejoice with this new song: ‘O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?’”

“For the death of Life was the death of death.” the Eschatological Hope affirmed, “Rejoice O you who are in Life. Rejoice. Death has no dominion over you. It’s lordship ended at the death and resurrection of Christ, your true and everlasting Lord and God.”

*Friedrich Nietzsche’s The Gay Science (1882, 1887) tran. Walter Kaufmann (1974) New York: Vintage, 1974 p. 181-82)

20 thoughts on “The Nietzschean Sinner

  1. Thanks Prayson! Death where is thy sting? Not on me, for my Life has won over death! Unfortunately nothing has changed for the outsider, and they all too well know deaths sting.

    • Just like in the beginning, it’s back to “à la carte”, i.e., man has FREE CHOICE between the tree of life and death.
      The CRITICAL MASS in Christ’s timelessly Spirit-active, perfect and diacritical death on the cross is the reason why Paul wrote: “Make sure that Christ’s death on the cross is not robbed of its power.” (1 Cor. 1:17)
      By the grace of God, I confirm.

    • This post unlike the others is under Christianity. It is not for those outside but those inside. Thus I totally understand your confusion and an apparently foolishness of what is described from those outside. 🙂

      • No confusion here, just a simple, factual observation. The question stems from the simple, factual observation: after Jesus’s Suicide by Centurion, why didn’t anything change?

        • Confusion John is to whom the post is addressed. I answered your question. From outsiders nothing changed. Your observation is correct. What is described is pure foolishness, which is understandable.

          Is your question not answered? If not, do you mean to ask how Christians, insiders, understand the death of death in Christ’s death and resurrection?

          • Now i’m confused! 😉

            Are you admitting here that Jesus’s Suicide by Centurion didn’t change a single thing? Therefore, his “mission” was a rather obvious failure… particularly when we consider he didn’t say anything new or even marginally useful?

          • Yes. From outsiders vintage point. This is not news. First century missionary, Paul of Tarsus, made these claims in what is now known as his first letter to Corinthians(1.18-31).

            So yes. From outside that is how it is. Nothing more, nothing less.

          • It is what I attempted to describe. It is incomplete. From inside, Christ Jesus rose again to leave behind an empty tomb. Death could not keep Him. This was to show what is now and not yet. The now, that death has no final say, as Epicureans believes, but, the not yet, though the insiders die, they, like Christ, will be rose again.

            This is even more foolishness from outside. I would wonder if it was not. 🙂

          • That doesn’t describe anything, and doesn’t address the question. After Jesus’s suicide (the suicide of the alleged creator of the universe, and therefore not geographically limited) China was exactly as China was, Europe was exactly as Europe was, the America’s were exactly as the America’s were, Australia was exactly as Australia was, Africa was exactly as Africa was, and even Palestine was exactly as Palestine was. Nothing. At. All. Happened. Isn’t this, bu every definition, a failure of monumental proportions… Doubly so when we consider Jesus (the character) didn’t say a single thing that was new or marginally useful.

          • John, I think I answered that already. Nothing is accomplished by Christ Jesus’ death. Nothing. It is all foolishness. It is meaningless. It is pointless. What you observed is very correct from outside vintage point.

          • …and, therefore, as I asked, what is the view from the inside?

            Do remember, you’re talking to a former Catholic. Educated by Carmelite nuns then Augustinian priests. You don’t have any “special” knowledge here, nothing I don’t already know and lived, so I’d like you to explain what this “inside” view is that you’re talking about.

          • There is no “special” knowledge, thus I do not have any. Growing up singing and dancing like insiders does not mean one is an insider. I do not think there is such thing as a former insider.

            If you already knew the inside view why do you ask? Did you not ask because it does not make any sense? Is not true that all described here foolishness to you? Is it not nonsense of first class? Madness? Meaningless?

            If yes, I am telling you over again. I think you are very correct.

          • …and with those words, Daniel confessed to all that he was, in fact, still the happy atheist he was in Tanzania, and left the Christian masquerade forever behind 😉

          • I think you handled that brilliantly Prayson!

            John might always be at odds with those like us, being raised and taught about God and Christ, yet choosing to reject the Message. This combination of knowledge and rejection is the most dangerous with it’s ability to twist truth and deceive the unknowing. But how you handle this should be a model for all Christians confronted by unbelievers. Your patience, insight, and understanding is an inspiration we should not ignore.

            It ALL comes down to “Does God choose me or do I choose God”?

            1) If God chooses me then why do I need to do anything because won’t his will be done anyway?
            2) If I think I have chosen God but God hasn’t chosen me then I surely I can‘t change God’s will?

            Does God choose me or do I choose God? The short answer is: yes, both!

            The same questions restated could read:

            1) Is God in control of everything and sovereign?
            2) Are we humans responsible for our actions – in particular, for the way we respond to God?

            At first glance, it looks as though these two questions don’t go together. But the Bible repeatedly holds them side-by-side without implying that affirming one means denying the other.

            It’s helpful to realize that while God’s revelation of his character (good, perfect, loving, merciful, just, etc.) is reasonably easy to understand, his ‘being’ is far more difficult to comprehend. Knowing God is one thing but completely understanding him is far more impossible.

            Those on the outside balk and grumble that God should do this and that and ask why did He do this, why didn’t He do that, why doesn’t He give me a sign, why, why, why. Those on the inside accept the mystery and know we need to learn to be humble and acknowledge that God is greater than we like to imagine and there will be things about God that we don’t understand but this doesn’t mean we are asked to give up all capacity for reason.

            Great post brother!

            “Rejoice O you who are in Life. Rejoice. Death has no dominion over you. It’s lordship ended at the death and resurrection of Christ, your true and everlasting Lord and God.”

        • Do not miss the UNLIMITED POSSIBILITIES FOR CHANGE present in the creation of “a new heaven and a new earth” by the power of “Christ’s death on the cross”, i.e., Spirit-active, perfect and diacritical, a.k.a., the seal of the “new covenant”.

    • The question is counter-challenged by “the first and the last” Spirit-active, perfect and diacritical death, including a POINT OF CHANGE for the transformation of the world by baptism with the Holy Ghost (Spirit) even if displaced by theology!

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